009 What a F*cking Shitshow: Royals, Rants & Real Talk

Welcome

Here we are again. Jo here. If you’re still listening, you’re either loyal or just nosey. Either way, cheers. This is Life’s a SHITSHOW. No script, no airs and graces, just us calling it like we see it. Tasha joins in when she’s done winding people up online.

Episode Summary

Started off solo tonight - Tasha was missing in action, probably arguing with a stranger. I’m perched in Fin’s bedroom, surrounded by dinosaurs and bad lighting. We covered: government incompetence, royal family drama, internet trolls, and why Glamour Magazine has lost the plot. We also plugged Deb’s new book (again), shouted out Avril’s new salon, and had a moan about video quality. Standard.

Key Takeaways

• Comments section is wild, either love or hate, no in-between.
• The Home Office is now running on trust. If you get rejected for asylum, they just hope you’ll tell them where you go. Good luck with that.
• Glamour Magazine’s “Women of the Year” are all men. Not even joking.
• Prince Andrew’s lost his titles, but not his freedom. If you see him, just shout “nonce.”
• Women’s rights are heading backwards. The justice system is a farce.
• Sometimes, even Andrew Tate and Trump make sense. Didn’t see that coming.
• “Thriller” is THE Halloween song. Billboard putting it at 22 is a crime.
• Support your mates - Avril’s salon and Deb’s book are both worth your time.

Resources & Links

• Deb Cullen “Letters” (A True Crime Memoir):
  On Amazon. Hardback, Paperback, Kindle, Kindle Unlimited. 
• Salon A, Spalding:
  Find them on Facebook if you’re in Lincolnshire.
• Life’s a SHITSHOW YouTube:
  Life’s a SHITSHOW. Go subscribe or leave a sarcastic comment.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Comments Section: Trolls, Fans & WTF Moments
• 10:18 Video Quality Is Still Crap (Yes, We Know)
• 14:18 The Home Office: Who’s Actually In Charge?
• 19:18 Immigration, Nail Bars & Government Logic
• 25:18 Dangerous Countries, Double Standards
• 30:18 Women’s Rights, Swedish Courts & Going Backwards
• 36:18 Glamour Magazine: Women of the Year… All Blokes
• 43:18 Royal Family: Nuns, Titles & Cover-Ups
• 55:18 Andrew Tate, Trump & Uncomfortable Truths
• 1:02:18 Halloween: Thriller, Billboard & MJ Still Rules
• 1:10:18 Deb’s Book, Salon A & Supporting Your Own

Transcript

[00:00:00] Jo Day: Folks, how are we all? You might have noticed that I'm here and going solo in a very strange background. I dunno if Tasha's there yet. She will be joining me shortly. So she's definitely logged into the studio, as you can see on the screen. But she will be joining me in a bit. So for the first part, I'm gonna go solo on this.

[00:00:25] So just to let you know so we don't go off track this is what we are gonna be covering tonight. So I'm gonna go through the comments section. First of all, while we waiting for Tash, um, we've got quite a list tonight. So we've got Tu um, you know, the Ethiopian chap that went on their own after being let out of prison by accident apparently.

[00:00:46] So we're gonna have a, a quick chat about him. Then we've got Andrew and Virginia Guffre and her book and what our thoughts are on the latest from the palace. Glam Magazine. I'm not gonna say any more than that. The Wayne Broadhurst her stabbing, Rachel Reeves and her rental license. And we've got a piece on the Home Office and Immigration Deb's book that I'm not sure if you can still see at the side of me.

[00:01:18] I've got my copies here. And then just a couple more other things that we want to get through as well. So first of all, I'm gonna start with the comment section because we have had a couple of lovely comments this week. And I'm gonna give a shout out and apologies if I'm pronouncing this wrong, but act.

[00:01:39] They've commented to say, hi Tash. They've commented to say hi. Sorry, I'm right. Sorry. How the fork do you not have more people watching you? Thank you very much for that comment. They also commented separately on another video of ours that basically just said, I love you pair, and I don't think either of us know who this person is.

[00:01:59] So that's, no, I didn't really nice that a stranger has made that comment. And an answer to your question is we're a brand new channel, both with tiny ordinances to start with. So with the support of friends and family, but now getting the wider reach out there on YouTube we have had just short Tash now of 200,000 views on the videos that we've done over the past few weeks, which for a brand new unknown channel, I think is absolutely phenomenal.

[00:02:31] So. Same big, big pat on the back for us. Big round of applause to us, and we'll just keep delivering more of the same. So I'm really tough with that. Yeah. So that's the, that's the lovely comment that we've had there. We like more might, you'll either lovers or haters. So that was that comment. Tash, there was a comment on one of the posts about when you were on, about the Katie Hopkins bat ship, bonkers Britain, when they said, mark, I know which one 

[00:03:02] Tasha: you, I know which one you mean.

[00:03:05] So if that person watches this I think it was like a ten second short clip. So in fairness, people watch the shorts and then they sort of respond to what they see in the shorts, and it's, it's never in context. Yeah, we, no one knows if it's true. 

[00:03:20] Yeah. 

[00:03:21] Firstly, like I do love how people sort of go, but it is true.

[00:03:25] Why? Because, yeah, on told it was like, 

[00:03:31] yeah, 

[00:03:31] we true. But, um, I didn't actually say it wasn't true. I just said, uh, it, it is a little bit convenient for me that that story, as of yet, I haven't had a response yet. I've had an automated response from Chester court to say they received my information request.

[00:03:48] As of yet, I've not had a reply, like a proper reply. So as soon as I get that, guys, I'll let you know what the response was. I, I hope it, I hope it's genuine. I hope it wasn't bullshit. I'll be mad. 

[00:04:01] Jo Day: Yeah. Can I, if I just move my laptop, can I just change the subject, like for the audience, for the viewing audience, whoever watches this on, replay, or live with us now, I'm not sure who's watching live, but hello to anybody that is.

[00:04:15] I'm sat on a dining room chair with my laptop on a set of drawers in Finn's bedroom. My grandson is eight and. Tara, this is the room that I decorated in the summit. Can you remember I was doing him a dinosaur theme. Yeah. So this is where, and that's why I've got dodgy lighting.

[00:04:35] Tasha: Oh, do you know what, speaking of the visuals, let everyone know that we are very aware about the visual, the video quality that comes up.

[00:04:43] Yeah. On the uploads. Um, we've been speaking about that today. We are trying to see if that we can do different things to make that better. It's nothing to do with the equipment that we're using guys, it's, it's to do with uploading and live streaming at the same time and we're gonna see if we can work that out.

[00:04:58] But we, we are aware of it. Yeah, it's fine to us as we are recording it, we don't see that quality come up until it goes up on YouTube unfortunately. So, yeah. But we, we are trying to sort that out. Yeah. So Ben, 

[00:05:12] Jo Day: yeah. Have you got anything else on the comment section? Tash? I think they leave 

[00:05:18] Tasha: probably. But you know what?

[00:05:19] My brain switched off about 20 minutes. It's just been, it's just been nonstop today. And I keep kind of thinking, right, I'm gonna have half an hour sit down cup of tea, quickly go through the topics for tonight, refresh my memory, get my head clear. And it's just been a bit mad because as you know, as everyone knows, we've been launching Deb's book this week and it's, it's, it seems like the day's just been eaten up with that.

[00:05:42] And then when, when we do, you know what?

[00:05:45] Jo Day: I've got the hard book. My two paperback copies came today, so, oh, why didn't, I think to get a paperback as well. You've got a paper. Well, I've ordered, 

[00:05:53] Tasha: I've ordered another, I've ordered another two of these that come tomorrow because I'm, I am gonna send these. Christmas people that I know are gonna love it.

[00:06:03] So 

[00:06:04] Jo Day: yeah. Well, I'm taking these back to Otti with me on Sunday, so I'm flying home on Sunday and uh, yeah, I'm going to give this to somebody for them to read. I'm not gonna say as Casey watched the video and I want it be. 

[00:06:18] Tasha: Yeah, I'll tell you what, it's such a shame that we didn't get to grab a day together again this time, but next time,

[00:06:26] Jo Day: Next time, definitely.

[00:06:28] Tasha: Yeah, so it's just been, it's just been a bit crazy today. So there was, I keep writing things down to remember to talk about, but then I've just sort of run up to get on on time that I, it's just like I sit down, switch the camera on, and then it all just goes out my head. So yeah, I mean, I did have a scroll through the comments and like you say, I did see the guy that, um, said they really nice things.

[00:06:49] That was lovely. 

[00:06:50] Yeah. Um, 

[00:06:51] and yeah, there's a couple of things on there. But it's just stupid. I just wish people would like, if you click on the short, it takes you to that part of the, 

[00:07:03] Jo Day: the video of the podcast. From there, the only other one that sticks out for me is the, there was a short clip where you were saying something like, Tash, I fucking hate everything about this country, or what labor are doing to it right now.

[00:07:22] If you'd have told me, yeah, years ago, I'd hate a labor government more than a Tory, blah, blah. Yeah. So it was like, and somebody's put, even though she's saying she hates labor, she's everything. That's what's fucking wrong with this country right now.

[00:07:38] Tasha: Yeah, I'm the problem. 

[00:07:39] Jo Day: You're the problem 

[00:07:40] Tasha: Tush. Be fair.

[00:07:42] To be fair guys, I can't listen. He's right because I can't stay long tonight. I've got my child sex trafficking ring I need to get back to really quickly because that shit just falls apart without me. I've got all my tax dodges I've gotta sort them out, you know, get them hidden from HMRC. 

[00:07:59] Jo Day: Don't forget, we've got some boats that we need to get back to France.

[00:08:01] Yep. We've got I'll, that's a brilliant, I hired, 

[00:08:06] Tasha: I hired extra this month 'cause I thought I'm really gonna fuck the country up this week. Do 

[00:08:11] Jo Day: you know what, honestly, later after this, I'm, uh, doing a bit of, a bit of a backhand deal. I'm back dating a renter's license for Rachel Reeves. 

[00:08:20] Tasha: Do you know what?

[00:08:21] I knew it was you. I knew it was you. I thought, do you know what that's got That's got Joe's name written all over it that 

[00:08:27] Jo Day: I thought I fucking sought that out for. I was in her inbox. I was like, oh, dodgy banker. Come on, I'll sort this out for you. Chat, GPT, come on, give me a license. And I, you know what, 

[00:08:41] Tasha: listen, I'll tell everyone that watches this, whether we know you or not, we can take whatever comments, honestly.

[00:08:49] Bring it on. Bring it on. Like you bring it on. There is nothing you could say I've always said to people for many years, strangers on the internet just don't have that much control over my emotions. Yeah. But at least make it fucking intelligent. If you're gonna come for us, come for us and give us a good one.

[00:09:07] Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Take the time. Use your brain. Don't just fly at us with we. It's your fault. The country's in a state. That's nonsense. Silly Billy. Not even worth my time to respond. Yeah, to shush. 

[00:09:23] Jo Day: Don't say I say something, and this is not even on my list and I've actually read what the agenda is tonight.

[00:09:29] Get me with an agenda like being back in court, got in 

[00:09:33] Tasha: front, very professional, 

[00:09:35] Jo Day: but Flash has logged into some Facebook groups as life's a shit show, or into some Facebook commentary, and she's commenting on posts now live's a shit show and I wake up to the comments thinking why I never a, or insulting or.

[00:09:54] Tasha: To know that I, I, I, I get on a rant. I see something. I fucking start, I just don't, again,

[00:10:03] Jo Day: pissed. Piss me off. We're gonna cover this in, in an episode at some point, but it's like literally traumatizing me because about 10 years ago, there was a thing that happened with Mum's net where. There was a huge case of mistake identity where mum's net and this particular thread thought that I was a particular user online.

[00:10:29] In fact, I hated that thread so much. I avoided it with a passion. Like literally, I couldn't stand it. But yeah, I mean, we are laughing now. It wasn't funny at the time. No, but they all thought it was me and it wasn't me. And many people went on to defend me to say it's not me. And I used to wake up in the morning and see this thread play out where this person was pretending to be me, but it wasn't me.

[00:10:53] And I, I got all the consequences of what this person was doing, but it wasn't me doing the, anyway. It's one. 

[00:11:01] Tasha: Were they, I don't think they were delib. Were they deliberately? I don't think they were deliberately pretending to be you. Were they? I think everyone, just every, all the people that were against you on there or against us on there.

[00:11:12] Were convinced it was you. 

[00:11:14] Jo Day: They were all convinced. Convinced it was They didn't 

[00:11:16] Tasha: spell 

[00:11:16] Jo Day: it. Yeah. And I think at some point that person knew because after, after 18 months of this going on Tash and mm-hmm. Literally destroying me mentally and emotionally. 

[00:11:31] Tasha: Yeah. 

[00:11:32] Jo Day: That person figured out who I was and they actually saw me in South Africa and came and apologized to me because they said they were unaware.

[00:11:44] But anyway, one for another time. So Tash, the thing I'd like to, what was on my list was had tu and the absolute shambles that happened with him this past week in terms of him being accidentally let out of prison. The Ethiopia. After being charged with sexual assault he was released from prison then he was on the run for 48 hours, supposedly tried to turn himself into a, to police officers who showed him towards a train station.

[00:12:24] He is now actually back in Ethiopia, but can you believe this? Can you believe this? Because I can't. They've actually paid him 500 quid after he threatened to disrupt his deportation from the UK to Ethiopia. They actually paid him 500 quid in his pocket to leave. 

[00:12:50] Tasha: Yeah, I can believe it. Yeah. Yeah, I can believe it.

[00:12:54] What I'm gonna try and do this week, I'm gonna try and get myself arrested for a shitty tweet. And then what I'm gonna do is when I'm sentenced, like, I dunno, four years in jail for it I'm gonna threaten to shit in K Star's letterbox if I don't get given a grand and let go and just see what happens.

[00:13:12] We'll just see how that plays out. Listen, do you know what? I can't even take this sort of, I can't even take these stories seriously anymore. 'cause I'm just like this is just shambles. It is a shambles. It's just, just the home office, the government, every, every, everything is just a fucking 

[00:13:30] Jo Day: mess.

[00:13:31] So that brings us on very nicely, Tash to the home office and immigration and mm-hmm. The tweet that I sent you earlier. Mm-hmm. I was disgusted by. Yeah. So let me just bring it up so I've got it in front of me. So I sent Tasha tweet earlier that basically read something along these lines that brace yourselves brace for this.

[00:14:02] But before, so in parliament or trigger warning. Yeah. In one of the like in one of the actual, you know, when they, they do the questions, Lee Anderson MP as actually asked the home office about UK Visas as an immigration. So he's raised a question about tracking of illegal immi immigrants coming in, and people claiming asylum.

[00:14:33] This is breaking news. The home office have revealed that they don't keep track of rejected asylum seekers. They expect the asylum seeker once rejected to inform the home office of their whereabouts. So if you get rejected, you get to stay. And it's basically an open door policy with the K visas as an immigration.

[00:15:02] Not fucking you. They're just basically going, yeah, you can't claim asylum, you're not staying. But tell us, you've, tell us where you end up going. We there's more developments on this Tash, so give your, oh no, Lee, let me just have a look for Lee Anderson, 'cause he's actually shared some more information on this.

[00:15:24] Tasha: Oh, Lee Anderson either Reform MP and he, 

[00:15:27] Jo Day: yeah, so it gets even worse. Lee Anderson says, I received another response to the question I asked the home office asking if they keep a record of the location of all asylum seekers who would claim, who had their claim refused. And the answer was, so not only do they refuse and then ask them to report back where the end door, we rely on them to update us about the their accommodation.

[00:15:59] So they've said, no, you can't stay. No, you can't claim asylum. So they've not kept a record of them, but not only that, they're waiting for the asylum seeker to then tell them which accommodation they've then ended up in and gone to stay in. 

[00:16:15] Tasha: That's like me putting my grandson in charge of the chocolate biscuits.

[00:16:20] Jo Day: So Alex Norris from the Labor Party. Nottingham North and Kimberly has replied, he's answered, asylum seekers are not detained, and we rely on them to update us about their accommodation if they are not in home office accommodation. The home office publishes data on asylum related returns. In the return summary tables open and it opens in a new tab.

[00:16:48] The data is up to date as of June, 2025. Now, I haven't had time to go and have a look at that data, so we think there's 37 and a half thousand migrants. Do you know 

[00:16:59] Tasha: what, do you know what that would be like putting Deb Cullen in charge of the CNA changing room security?

[00:17:06] Spoiler alert. 

[00:17:08] Wouldn't it? 

[00:17:10] Yeah, 

[00:17:11] I just, 

[00:17:13] I've got no 

[00:17:14] fucking words. Oh God, no fucking words. It's like handing your bag over to Deb and going, make sure 

[00:17:21] no one ns that. 

[00:17:23] Yeah. Sorry Deb. 

[00:17:27] Jo Day: She be there again. We the book, she's a changed woman, by the way. The book is historical. 

[00:17:34] Tasha: She fuck. No, she's, she's joking.

[00:17:36] I'm joking. 

[00:17:37] Although, listen guys, I'm not, every time we pass through Holloway on the tube, I do just look at her and she just looks at me and goes, fuck off.

[00:17:45] Anyway, sorry. Well forget about Deb's criminal past for a minute. Go back to the current criminality of our government. 

[00:17:54] Jo Day: I can't, this guy Alex Norris, like his profile picture is like this guy in a suit. Big smiles like the. And he just seems well chuffed with his answer, that they're not determined what, what we rely on.

[00:18:07] I mean, you've gotta remember these guys hardly speak a word of bloody English when they arrive. They've got no passport.

[00:18:14] Tasha: Can you imagine the conversation of that right now? Listen. Listen, right? You gotta promise us, you'll let us know where you're alright. You a toffee apple if you're a good boy. Yes. Yes. I can imagine Manuel on 40 towers going, yes, yes, yes, yes. Cc See, tell you, tell you ce, oh God, this is gonna come across awful.

[00:18:38] On a fucking short, well ask me named racist of the week again. But anyway, you know. I promise. I promise. I promise. 

[00:18:48] Jo Day: Yeah. But this is what I like about me being in control of the shorts. 'cause I can clip them and make you sound like a twat. And I love it. 

[00:18:56] Tasha: Now see, now that, now see, I didn't know that and now I understand why I, why all the shorts, if you know it's guys, oh, shorts are the ones where I sound like I am on a rant.

[00:19:09] Joe's 

[00:19:09] like, 

[00:19:11] Yeah, yeah. You're like, this is why I don't go on Big Brother because you are like Channel four editing team right now. I wouldn't trust those fuckers either. 

[00:19:19] Jo Day: Yeah. I can't believe, I can't believe I didn't homophobic, transphobic. I clip it just in that moment. Do you know what? 

[00:19:28] Tasha: Fuck it I'm over it at this point.

[00:19:30] I don't even care. I don't even care.

[00:19:33] Jo Day: Have we got anything else to say apart from what a fucking shit show that is? I mean, I haven't got any details and I've read this tweet just before I've come on and I'm just like, it's self-explanatory. I mean, we 

[00:19:45] Tasha: all, everybody that hears that just thinks the same.

[00:19:49] We don't even have to say it out loud. We're all just like, do you know what? I'm fucking tired of this. Yeah. I'm so tired of this. I'll tell you what, I wasn't gonna, I wasn't gonna, um, let's not 

[00:20:01] Jo Day: the landmark deal that they've done with Vietnam this week, 

[00:20:06] Tasha: right? 

[00:20:07] Jo Day: Where, you know, they've sorting they've signed a deal with Vietnam that they're gonna re remove all the illegal immigrants from Vietnam, all the nail bars.

[00:20:16] So you know these women that are doing your nails. Manicuring that you, nobody is bothered about. Nobody is talking about whatsoever. No one asked. Guess where I went on holiday in May for a fortnight and I'd love go live there. Vietnam, they're the nicest people. Nicest people I've ever met in my life.

[00:20:38] These Vietnamese. Can I, 

[00:20:39] Tasha: can I 

[00:20:40] Jo Day: just, 

[00:20:40] Tasha: can 

[00:20:40] Jo Day: I just 

[00:20:42] Tasha: speak for the 

[00:20:43] country when I say leave our now bars alone.

[00:20:48] Leave our Jamaicans alone. They're brought 

[00:20:52] over great food and music. Leave them be And have you seen how those guys are handling that hurricane right now? They're so unbothered. They're so unserious. It's 

[00:21:02] Jo Day: ridiculous. Well, you know why they're so unbothered? Kia Storm has sent them two and a half million quid.

[00:21:09] Tasha: Listen mate, the tiktoks I've been watching, they haven't had a penny of that. Two and a half million quid. So. Trust me, they're just blood clotting all over the place on their sofas drifting down. I mean, they're so uns. They're just, I just love Jamaica. I just love Jamaicans. I don't give a shit about anything.

[00:21:25] But can I had a, so right, I'm gonna tell you this. So I ordered a Tesco Ush today, even though it is at the top of my road. Yes. I'm lazy. Don't care. It was cold, gray and raining. So I thought, fuck it, I'm gonna order me bread and me milk and get it delivered. Yeah. The guy that delivered it. We had a bit of a giggle because I might have thrown, 

[00:21:45] Jo Day: do me a favor, just come a little bit more over into the middle of your screen, will you?

[00:21:49] That's it. That'll do. Nice. Fair. 

[00:21:52] Tasha: Yeah. 

[00:21:53] Jo Day: Thank you. I hope that 

[00:21:54] Tasha: comes up crystal clear in hd. Um, but yes, I might, I might have ordered cigarettes 'cause couldn't be asked to walk up there. Um, anyway, they have to ask you for your date of birth. Yep. So. Guys comes to the door I said, he said, oh, what's your date of birth?

[00:22:11] I said, oh, you have to scroll back quite away there, mate. You got, we're gonna have to go back to 70 something because he had a bit of a giggle anyway, chatting away. And he went, oh, better time, wasn't it? I went, yeah, bloody well was. Anyway, we got talking. Um, and it turns out he was an immigrant.

[00:22:27] Yeah. From Sri Lanka Legal, by the way. We were chatting away and he said, oh, I came, I said, well, how, how are you finding things right now? Do you noticing the way the country's just going to shit? And he went, yeah. Um, he said, I came here from Sri Lanka in 2012. He said, with my wife, he said, and we went through the legal channels.

[00:22:48] He said it was a long process. Yeah. Yeah. But we did it. He said, um, we came here. He said, I've worked hard. We bought a home. My children were born here. He said, as far as I'm concerned, we are now British. Yeah. He went, this is my country, and we are British. He said, um, he said, on a day-to-day basis, people are great.

[00:23:11] He said, I don't, I don't see horrible people. I don't see bad people on a day-to-day basis in my everyday life. He said, but we respect the law. We respect the British culture, and we fit in. 

[00:23:24] Jo Day: Yeah. 

[00:23:25] Tasha: And I said to him, what do you make of what's going on now with the immigration, with the illegal immigration and the situation with that?

[00:23:32] And he said to me, I hate it. True story. I promise on my children. This was a conversation I had with the guy this morning. I don't, it was weird, you know, he just sort of really, the guy was so friendly and chatty that we just sort of fell into this conversation and I thought, I'm gonna take the opportunity to ask him.

[00:23:48] You know, because I, I do that, I do that with as many people that aren't British born. As I come across, we, and we are chatting, I sort of throw it in to get as much as I can just to see 

[00:23:58] Jo Day: Yeah. What people's experiences 

[00:24:00] Tasha: and, and a nice guy. 

[00:24:02] Jo Day: Yeah. I've seen a post this afternoon Tash on Facebook and I and made me go, oh wow.

[00:24:07] Yeah. That's, and it, it said something along the lines of, it was just one of these wordy posts and it, it just said, why does the UK government issue travel warnings to countries for us that are dangerous for us not to go to and then bring everyone here, but then lets the people from these countries come in unchecked.

[00:24:31] Honestly, you're telling us not to fly there on a plate. Do not go to these countries because they're dangerous. But then allowing them all to come to us unchecked, you know. 

[00:24:42] Tasha: You know what? It's funny you say that because I literally said to the guy, listen I said, I don't, I don't hate individual people for coming here.

[00:24:51] I said, look, Barbados got on the phone and went, listen, if any Brits wanna come here, stay in a hotel for free, have some food. I said, mate, I'm packing. I'm off. So I said, you can't blame the people. I said, but you know, I said, it is, if I went to Dubai, I'm not robbing no jewelry store in my bikini. Yeah.

[00:25:13] And if I do, I'm taking the consequences because duh. So what makes me laugh about that? Well, actually it is not even funny, but when you consider that it's the FI wear, I, I don't wanna go ev loads of people ghost to Dubai. It's not somewhere I wanna go for that reason. I don't wanna go somewhere where I'm not really sure of what I can do, what I can't, what I can wear, what I can't wear.

[00:25:35] I can wear it where I can't. You. If I go on holiday, mate, 

[00:25:39] Jo Day: I don't have to fucking think about it. Never ever wanted to go to Dubai. And I think the main reason I didn't want go was because of the unavailability of drink and the expect, who 

[00:25:52] Tasha: the fuck wants to go somewhere on holiday with no alcohol.

[00:25:55] Jo Day: Yeah. So I've changed my mind on that a little bit now because I don't drink anymore. Don't ruin it for the rest now. I know, I know. But I, I went to Qatar as well, so on the way to Vietnam, we stopped off in Dowa. Very bizarre and surreal, really considering it got like an airstrike six weeks after I'd left, there was an airstrike that kind of hit over 

[00:26:22] Tasha: Maybe the apple juice, uh, that you were there.

[00:26:24] Jo Day: Maybe they did. Maybe they did. Yeah. I can't say as I felt particularly comfortable or safe there at all because I, I didn't know what the rules were and I was looking over my shoulder constantly and I was on edge. I couldn't relax there at all. So relieved that we were only there for one night. 

[00:26:42] Tasha: I mean, that said, I was shown a photograph on Saturday night.

[00:26:46] She'll kill me if she watches this. She'll kill me for telling them. I was shown a photograph on Saturday night of my son-in-law's sister on holiday in Dubai. Not looking particularly religious or classy, let's say. So it can be done. I think you just have to choose wisely. I think she was on a rooftop terrace bar somewhere.

[00:27:07] Maybe somewhere, maybe a rich hotel where they went, if you're gonna act if you're gonna act like a brick, can you go upstairs please? 

[00:27:15] Jo Day: Yeah. 

[00:27:15] Tasha: But um, look, you know, I'd rather go be dorm run. I'm get me tits out when I'm drunk and nothing bad happens, 

[00:27:22] Yeah. 

[00:27:23] But the, what I was gonna, what I was gonna say to that was, the funny thing about that was Stacey Dooley was walking down the street to loot and being spat at 

[00:27:30] for wearing a vest stop.

[00:27:31] Yeah. 

[00:27:33] That, that can't be right. That can't be right. 

[00:27:38] Jo Day: There was that comment this week. I dunno if you saw that. I mean, that's been broadcast on where the guy was holding that sign up and, you know, when they were all protesting, all dressed in black with the face masks. And he said, don't we like that, mate?

[00:27:55] We're on the same side. And he went, no, we're not. You see that? 

[00:28:00] Tasha: Mm-hmm. 

[00:28:01] Jo Day: It was a bit of a, an awakening for them. It was like literally, no, we're not on the same side. Like we absolutely

[00:28:08] Tasha: not. I I've said it before. I'm gonna say it again. As someone that's spent their whole life as a liberal, I don't say this as a right wing political person.

[00:28:18] I'm telling you this as someone that's been a liberal their whole life. You can't, the left are worse. The far left is worse for inciting violence, 

[00:28:31] for 

[00:28:31] being nuts, for being sick as fuck. 

[00:28:36] Yeah. 

[00:28:37] I said it. I'm gonna get some hate for that. I don't care. That's what I'm seeing. I'm not talking about liberals in general.

[00:28:44] I'm talking about far left fucking social activists. Absolute fucking loons. I can't bear them. And that is a prime example. They will, they'll march the streets, stop racism, stop this, stop this. Like there's some sort of fucking moral high ground group, and they are the worst. They are literally the definition of fucking fascism.

[00:29:08] They want you beaten, they want your job lost. They want you to shush if you don't agree with them. Yeah. That is literally fascism whilst holding signs saying, stop fascism. Yeah. Do you know how. 

[00:29:23] Get 

[00:29:25] in 

[00:29:25] Jo Day: the comment section. Don't care. I'm going to, I'm gonna mention one, one more thing on this whole topic of these illegals coming in and wherever, and I sent you this earlier T I'm not sure if you had chance to read it, but I was fuming when I read this headline.

[00:29:44] So it's basically a picture of a young girl. This is Swedish mayor, 16 years old. 

[00:29:53] Tasha: Mm-hmm. Sure. Yeah. She was stopped 

[00:29:54] Jo Day: and raped by an Eritrean migrant Mohammed when she was on her way home from work. After she'd missed her buzz, the judge decided not to sentence him to deportation because the rape didn't last long enough.

[00:30:16] What the fuck is wrong with these judges? I mean, last week we talked about this judge, that this guy's been convicted of four counts of sexual assault and rape, and he gave him 12 months because it might trigger the deportation process, but there's that human European court of rights that would kick in so that it would, do you know what I mean?

[00:30:45] I have to be careful, 

[00:30:47] Tasha: I have to be careful with this topic because 

[00:30:50] if I start ranting, I could end up saying things that 

[00:30:54] Jo Day: I think reason I raise it, Tash, is because this is why people are getting more and more and more angry. 

[00:31:03] Tasha: Look I read, I read that when you sent that to me. And I'm gonna say this firstly I'd like to think.

[00:31:11] At the moment. 'cause I've, like you say, we haven't had time to look into this properly yet. I am gonna assume for now that is a manipulated headline because I don't want to even consider that a judge said that's the first thing. Because if a judge in our justice system said that, then we've really got a fucking problem.

[00:31:35] Yep. 

[00:31:36] Women's rights right now are going backwards. Anyone. And look I'm, I'm gonna try and be understanding here because I've, I've got, I know people who are all on the trans activism bandwagon and, whatever. And I know they're, they're nice people, but they're nice people, they're naive people, and they think they're just doing the nice thing.

[00:31:58] They think they're just, championing for the underdog and people that don't have rights. And I get it guys. I get it. But you have to really listen to me when I tell you that's not what's happening. It is not the fight you think it is. It is not the underdog poor no have no Right.

[00:32:19] It's not, that's not it. Yeah. On a, on a level, it might be you might, you know, I'm sure trans people, some of the trans people even think that. But trust me, when I say politically and bigger picture, it's not what you think it is. And any women that are fighting for this cause against women's rights, you are going to fucking regret it.

[00:32:43] You are going to have a moment soon where you go, shit, how did I not see this? Yeah. And these stories sicken me and people that know me and know me well know that this is very personal to me. 

[00:33:02] Yeah. 

[00:33:03] For many reasons that I don't, I can't really talk about because it's not my story. Yeah. It's not my to talk about, but somebody very close to me, I.

[00:33:13] This has happened, recently for us, a couple of times, different people and the way these cases have been handled is just, mm. Yeah. So when I'm logging on in the morning and I'm seeing, judges say things like that, or women, women I know as well who have had their own cases of sexual assault.

[00:33:37] Yeah. 

[00:33:37] Pushing for men to put poor men with the feelings, pushing to be in women's safe spaces. I can't get my fucking head around it. And I'm telling you now, those same people will be crying on social media soon going, well, my granddaughter was molested by a trans kid. And that Really? 

[00:33:59] No. Yeah. And 

[00:34:02] I'm not saying all trans, I'm not saying all trans kids, I'm not saying trans people are a problem.

[00:34:07] I'm saying, oh my fucking God. How many stories and cases of this happening? It's not trans people. It's mentally not. People who happen to think they're trans a lot nowadays. 

[00:34:22] Yeah. 

[00:34:23] Fact deal with it. That's not me. 

[00:34:26] Jo Day: That is fact. Tash, nice segue into this.

[00:34:33] So Lord, give me strength in the moment. This is the copy of this month's Glamor magazine and it says The Dolls, and I dunno if you can make out the Women of the Year. So there's nine people on that cover. 

[00:34:55] Tasha: I've got the nine people here. 

[00:34:57] Jo Day: Yeah. So what you won't know just from that image is those nine people are all men.

[00:35:04] They're all born biological men. And we have Glamour Magazine nominating and awarding their woman of the year to nine biological men. Not a single woman, not one

[00:35:23] Tasha: can We all just have a two minute silence to mourn the death of Fuckings sanity. 

[00:35:29] I, I, 

[00:35:30] Jo Day: when I sent you that Tash, my comment was, what the fucking fuck? Because I like, literally, I just don't know what else to say. Women do you know? And all of them are men.

[00:35:45] Tasha: Can I just let, can I just, lemme just read this little bit of blurb. Glamour Magazine's Annual Women of the Year Awards. Honor women making significant impact in their fields and communities Over the years, a few openly transgender women have been among the honorees a milestone for visibility and inclusion.

[00:36:08] Below is a complete list of all transgender women recognized as Glamor Women of the Year, including the Year of the Honor, why they were chosen and notable context or reactions and a brief background on each. Now there's, they're listed, there's a lot. And if I'm really honest with you guys, I haven't had time to go through the whole list and read every single word, so I'm not gonna comment too much on the individuals.

[00:36:32] Caitlyn Jen is in there 2015, 10 years ago. 

[00:36:37] Yeah. 

[00:36:38] Now look, I like Caitlyn Jenner, right? I've got no issue. I quite like the fact that Caitlyn Jenner even is very much. But see, this is where the hypocrisy fucking infuriates me. Caitlyn Jenner. I love that will sit there and say, but I'm a biological man.

[00:36:56] Great, we're getting there. But then Caitlyn Jenner has also accepted an award for Woman of the Year and taken that award away from an actual 

[00:37:08] Jo Day: woman. 

[00:37:09] Tasha: Now, I wanna be really clear before people start the fucking bullshit with me. Big up trans women, great give trans women awards where they're doing great in their communities and their fields.

[00:37:22] I'm all for that shit, no problem. But yet again. It is at the expense of fucking women because they are taking the woman award. Give them the Trans Woman award. 

[00:37:38] Yeah. Why 

[00:37:39] have the women gotta sacrifice their their safe spaces? Why aren't you telling the men to make their safer, safer? Why aren't you asking women or men to help you fight for your own spaces?

[00:37:53] Why the fuck does it have to be us giving up ours? We fought hard for those and you ain't fucking having them. It's as simple as that. But listen, I'll help you write the letters and I'll help you march for the for your own. Yeah, no problem. But this cannot respect is both ways. You cannot demand to take my shit and then ask me to respect you.

[00:38:16] I'm not doing that. And this infuriates me because let's just remember there is a French woman. Who was repeatedly drugged and raped by her husband and all of his friends for years. And that woman put her name out there to the fucking world, bravely stood in court and she wavered that anonymous, uh, that that anonymous option 

[00:38:44] for women all over the world.

[00:38:47] Yeah. Where's their fucking award?

[00:38:50] And that's that 

[00:38:52] there are plenty of biological women doing incredible fucking things. That deserve recognition and deserve an award. And I'm sorry, I'm gonna say this and people ain't gonna like it in 2025, if everyone shut the fuck up shouting in 2025. Trans people walking down the street have got no problems whatsoever that they need a fucking award for it.

[00:39:20] I'm sorry. You don't, because unlike that French woman, you can take that costume off, you can choose to live unhappily. That might be so, but you can choose to live 

[00:39:33] as a man. We can't. Yeah. That woman couldn't, 

[00:39:38] she couldn't choose, so, I'm sorry, but the, I'm, I'm sick of this bullshit. I'm sick of this pondering to fucking nonsense.

[00:39:46] Jo Day: JK has had something to say on this and um, I'll just read you her tweet. She shared this magazine cover and JK says. I grew up in an era when mainstream women's magazines told girls they needed to be thinner and prettier. Now, mainstream women's magazines tell girls that men are better women than they are, and that's just, 

[00:40:16] Tasha: and she's spot on, 

[00:40:17] Jo Day: right?

[00:40:17] She's spot on. Spot on. Just because I can't help myself, I just wanna have a little dig at Bridgette Macron, he's a man. A man

[00:40:29] is Bridgette, and apparently somebody has managed to infiltrate the French tax system change. Here. His name from Bridget Macron to Jean-Michel Trau. And if any of you don't know what I'm talking about, go and watch becoming Bridgette on Candy Sewings channel at Candy Sewings, the whole series, guys, from start to finish.

[00:40:59] You wanna watch the whole series? She it, the research has been done and I would say without a shadow of a doubt, Bridgette Macron is a man. Hundred percent. It's not only a, not only is he a man also should be in prison for being a pedophile. 

[00:41:22] Tasha: Oh yeah, yeah. Bridgette Mccn is a nuns. 

[00:41:25] Jo Day: Now that wasn't one on the list of things to talk about tonight.

[00:41:29] Allegedly. Allegedly, yeah. Okay. Let see what, what was next on the list? 

[00:41:38] Tasha: I dunno why we bother having lists 'cause we know we're gonna go on. 

[00:41:42] Jo Day: I wanna bring us quite nicely round to another nun, a home, like a homegrown nun this time. Oh, Randy, Andy, Randy, Andy. So a statement yesterday afternoon, 30th of October, a statement from Buckingham Palace.

[00:42:01] His Majesty has today initiated a formal process to remove the style titles and honors of Prince Andrew. Prince. Andrew will now be known as Andrew Mountbatten Windsor. His lease on Royal Lodge has to date provided him with legal protection to continue in the residence. Formal notice has now been served to surrender the lease and he will move to alternative private accommodation.

[00:42:34] This ensures sorry. These sensor sensors are deemed necessary notwithstanding the fact that he continues to deny the allegations against him. Their majesties wish to make clear that their thoughts and utmost sympathies have been and will remain with the victims and survivors of any and all forms of abuse ends 

[00:43:02] Tasha: ley.

[00:43:04] We don't call him Andrew Mount Batten. We call him nuns. That's the first thing. Cy Mcn, if you do see him, yes. Sweaty knots. If you do see him walking down the street, guys, don't bother with Mr. Mount Batten. Just shout pedo. 

[00:43:22] Yeah. 

[00:43:22] Um, okay. 

[00:43:25] What an amazing consequence for child rape. Allegedly. Yeah. 

[00:43:32] So keep the house, I don't mind him living in the house.

[00:43:36] I ain't, I ain't got a problem with that. I'd rather see him in a fucking courtroom. 

[00:43:40] Jo Day: Exactly. I, I'd rather see beyond bars, or is this what we do? We get 12 million quid silencing money. Pay them off, settle out to court. That's okay. Yes, sir. This woman, I'm gonna, she's dead. She committed suicide and I have no doubt she committed suicide as a result of having such a shitty teenage life.

[00:44:04] Well, 

[00:44:04] Tasha: I well, I've got some updates on, on that because I've, I dozed off, last night I was watching Candace Owens live, and then I sort of dozed off and what happens on YouTube is it just starts auto playing. 

[00:44:16] Yep. 

[00:44:17] When I woke up, it was auto playing. I wanna say Katie is her name Katie Corick.

[00:44:24] You know her? She's a, she's a quite well known journalist. Her name's Kate. She's an American. 

[00:44:30] Yeah, I think 

[00:44:31] find out. 

[00:44:32] Um, but anyway, I sort of, I don't follow her or anything, but I sort of woke up in the middle of, or just at the start of actually of, um, an interview that, that this Katie was doing with a woman called Amy, I wanna say Watson, Amy something who was a ghost writer for Virginia Guffey.

[00:44:53] I think that was her name. I, I might not be pronouncing that right. I apologize. But Giuffre, I thought, oh yeah, Giuffre, yeah, like that. I thought, oh, how interesting. Now I was, obviously, I really should have just walked up to bed and gone asleep. But by the time I got upstairs, I was sort of invested. And I really liked this Amy older woman.

[00:45:16] She's been a journalist. She's worked for big media outlets and she became a ghost writer. But she said, we have to research and we have to check the information or that she. She spent a lot of time with Virginia when she was alive. Went through a lot. She knew exactly what she wanted in the book.

[00:45:32] She knew what she didn't want in the book, and she was clearly, she clearly really liked her. She said, you know, she, she was a beautiful person. 

[00:45:45] Yeah. 

[00:45:45] Really big heart. Genuine. She has gone through it. She's had people break into her house. She's been threatened like you can imagine. She went for Epstein.

[00:45:57] Yeah. She, she was attacking mo hard agents. Less savvy, right? Yep. So she can only imagine what that woman's been through. And she was accusing Royals, right? Yep. But what she did put in the book, now the book's just been released, which isn't a shock to me. It's the first thing I've said to my daughter.

[00:46:16] I've bet Virginia's book's come out. Because let's be honest, the royal family have known what a fucking C is for ages. I'm sure there's more in the royal family that are up to no good that they pretend aren't. The queen must have known he was the favorite child. She clearly got the checkbook out, shut everything down.

[00:46:34] I loved Queen Elizabeth, but I'm sorry I that, I lost respect for her when she did that for someone that always did the right thing, so that pissed me off and it pissed me off because it's such a big fuck you to the general public. We know what he did. We watched him lie on national tv. We are being gaslit into trying to believe this Giza could remember a fucking pizza date with his kids from 20 years ago or whatever.

[00:47:05] Come on, you don't sweat, I'll fuck off. Like it's, it's, it's insulting and it's a kick in the bollocks, especially when the general public will go to prison for the same things. Now, at the same time as this, don't forget the whole grooming gang stuff is going on. Yeah. So what we're being told is been told, if you nun kids, you are terrible and you're gonna 

[00:47:29] gel.

[00:47:30] But if you win the lottery and you end up a Freemason, you're good to go. If you join the royal family, 

[00:47:41] don't worry, we've got the checkbook. If you, if you are a Muslim leader in a labor run council area, don't worry. Have as many as you like. As long as they're white girls though. 

[00:47:56] Yeah. 

[00:47:56] It's gonna be uncomfortable for people to hear that.

[00:47:58] That's what's happened, right? It's true. These rape guns come up. It's, but what I do want people to know is this white girls, I want people to know this. Virginia was abused as a 7-year-old. She hadn't spoken about that publicly. She's written it in the book, and she was abused by her father and her father's friends repeatedly until she was 11.

[00:48:25] So what you have to understand is people like Epstein people will say, well, why didn't they just leave? They wanted the money. Eh, she was 17. She wasn't a kid. Stop that shit. Because when Ghislaine, people like Ghislaine and Jeffrey eps, they, these P predators spots. Weakness. They spot the trauma. They see the, the lack of confidence and the lack of self-esteem and self-worth.

[00:48:52] And then they use that and they manipulate it and they are still fucking children. Turn 18. Really? You're still a kid. You don't wake up overnight. Suddenly, all wisdom, all knowing, she was a traumatized young girl. They knew exactly what they were doing. Now there's been a whole trial. There's a woman in prison.

[00:49:17] We still don't have names of customers, but it makes me think there's something there's some bad stuff in that book for suddenly 

[00:49:27] Jo Day: to be a thing. Statements I've read or one of the extras, just a quick sentence from there was Andrew told her it was his birthright that he could have sex with her whenever he wanted.

[00:49:41] Can't, it was his birthright. She had to do as he was told. She was told,

[00:49:47] Tasha: I'm sorry. See, this is why I just can't, I can't, I, I'm just not, I'm not on board with royal family at all. I'm not. I'm, I think, like we said the other week, we said last week, it's growing up being so proud of your culture and your, your establishments and your pomp and ceremony and just being really proud to be British and then getting to a point where you see everything behind the curtain.

[00:50:11] It was the same for me in the network marketing industry. Loved it, thought it, everything was this, this, this, until you see behind the curtain and think these people are fucking cunts. Yeah. The higher up they go, the more corrupt and dark they get and it is literally the same in any when money's. It is like when money, there's so many people that change with money.

[00:50:34] Yeah. It's. I can't, I don't care how cute the queen was. I don't care how lovely the tradition's been up to. Now we have to face facts that these establishments are just riddled with corruption and shit. Yep. It's all, it's all, it's all just theater. It's not real. Who fucking decided these people were worth more than these people?

[00:51:01] And these people shouldn't be homeless and these people should be fed, and these people can do without food. Who fucking decided that? Yeah. What, what makes a birth? What makes their birthright any better than mine or yours? Fuck him. 

[00:51:14] Jo Day: Yeah. I've started watching Andrew Tate. Now the only thing I've ever heard about Andrew Tate previously is he's misogynistic and blah, blah, blah.

[00:51:24] Like he's a twat and all the stuff that you can think of. 

[00:51:29] Tasha: Mm-hmm. 

[00:51:29] Jo Day: And I'm listening to him speak and I'm like agreeing with him. I agree with everything he's saying. Everything he's saying makes bloody sense. Same he's been set up by the establishment. It's like so bloody in your face and obvious that there's a reason why they put him in prison in Romania and why they tried silencing because he is speaking the truth.

[00:51:52] Tasha: I've, I ain't gotten a problem with Listen the things again. Again. He was someone I didn't like for that reason. Oh. He says horrible things about women. 'cause I'd see a ten second clip and then I, I thought, do you know what I saw? I saw a clip once of him. I couldn't stand him. Joe, same as everyone else.

[00:52:08] Oh, he is misogynist. He this, oh, he said this about women. He said women deserve to be raped or whatever it was. And I thought, disgusting man. And then I saw like a ten second thing where he said something about the establishment and I thought, he's smart. Yeah. And I thought, hang on, let me watch these things in context.

[00:52:28] Yeah. Same with Trump. Same with Trump. There was things I was seeing about Trump and I thought, fucking hell. He's What a horrible man. Hang on. Let me watch the whole thing in context. 

[00:52:39] Jo Day: Yep. 

[00:52:40] Tasha: So I started doing that a lot. This was back in 2020 after COVID. Everything changed for me. I was like, nah, do you know what?

[00:52:47] I need to start? Even these people, I thought I was quite clued up and awake in 2020, but fuck me. You know? There were still things. I was like, I'm still falling into that trap of believing things. So I watched a whole interview with Andrew Tate. He didn't say a single thing I didn't fucking agree with, including when he was talking about women.

[00:53:10] Yeah. 'cause let me tell you now, in my twenties, I was feminist. I was, we can have it all. I'm going to do my own thing. I don't need a man. You cannot, and I don't care if people agree with me. You cannot have a very successful career and be an exceptional mother. Can't do it. Not possible. So if you are pretending on Facebook, you're an amazing mother and a very successful woman, you're a liar.

[00:53:41] You know your asthma, 

[00:53:44] Jo Day: you can ask 

[00:53:45] Tasha: or, or you are doing fine in both, but you'll do mediocre in both. You cannot be the best in your career, the most successful and achieve everything and do a brilliant job of parenting as well. Cannot be done as a mother. Right? And people can argue with me about that, but listen, I would've been the one in my twenties.

[00:54:15] Hearing that and going, whoa, the fuck does she think she, I would've been that person, right? But as someone that's now had three grownup children and I'm now on the grandchildren, the third grandchild, let me tell you, I sit here now and I wish that all I'd have had to focus on, and the only thing I'd have had to think about for my kids, for raising my kids for 27 years or whatever, was being a mom.

[00:54:43] Same. Because it's the only thing. Yeah. Andrew Tate is right when he says that you don't get the same fulfillment. You don't from a job that you do from your children. And that's not to say that being a mum is for everyone either. That's not to say there's not choices, but I'm telling you, there's nothing.

[00:55:04] There's nothing for me. If I could go back and redo that time, I would be a stay at home mom. Yeah. And I would just focus on my children because it has been being at home with my kids and doing that now with my grandchildren. Best thing ever. There's no job, there's no success in career that has ever given me the same feeling of satisfaction or purpose as seeing my children grow into great humans and, and having those moments with my grandchildren when they go, nanny, I love you, nanny.

[00:55:38] You are the best nanny in the world. 

[00:55:40] Yeah. 

[00:55:41] You know, so he's right when he, it's uncomfortable to admit, 

[00:55:46] but he's right in a lot of what he says. Yeah.

[00:55:52] And if you listen to him, 

[00:55:54] he's actually not. All right. He might be, listen, I'm not, he might be an absolute arrogant shit. He might be a pain in the ass. But that doesn't mean he is wrong. 

[00:56:04] Jo Day: Yeah. Well ts remember, right? I mean, I've got three adult children now and I was the career minded mom.

[00:56:12] And I'll tell you now, and I think I've said it on a previous episode. Yeah, you're absolutely right. You can't be both. I was an absent mum because I was too busy with my job and when I got home from work, I was still absent because I was still with my laptop, still answering emails at the time. It was one of them, not so much a mobile phone.

[00:56:32] What was it? Had an actual keyboard, a query keyboard on it. I can't remember what the, is Blackberry? A Blackberry? I had a Blackberry and a mobile phone. The only thing that happened with me was when I closed my laptop, my screen got smaller, but I was still bloody working. Yeah. In a man, in a main kids In a in, yeah.

[00:56:51] Mom wants fatigue. Yeah. In a, in, in a man. In a minute. In a minute. 

[00:56:54] Tasha: Yeah. 

[00:56:55] Jo Day: Money in a minute. And I missed my kids growing up and I'm a different grandparent. So earlier on, just before you voicemail me and you were asking a question about are you free for a minute or, or whatever it was, and I said, hit them in.

[00:57:12] I'm just on Finn's bed. He's pretending to have fallen from a tree. We play, we're playing hospital. He's fell out of a tree. He can't remember what happened after falling out of the tree. But he thinks he's broke his arm and he's broke his leg. So I'm in the middle of an operation. You're just gonna have to hang on because, and then you voice clip back magically.

[00:57:32] You should have seen his face. It was a picture. You voice clipped back. Oh my God. It's Halloween. Do you know he might turn into a zombie? Have you checked him from being a zombie? So you, you played into the game really, really well. He's smiling now because he's got his headphones. He's still sat on his bed.

[00:57:50] He's got his headphones on. But I think he could, he pretending. 

[00:57:55] Tasha: Is he pretending he can't hear us? 

[00:57:57] Jo Day: Yeah, I think he, I think he knows I was talking about him. 

[00:58:01] Tasha: So listen, Finn, I know your mommy so I know you are definitely cheeky 'cause your mum's cheeky. 

[00:58:07] Jo Day: Yeah, he is not reacted to that. So I'll show him after.

[00:58:10] I think. I think you realized I was pointing at him but yeah. I'm gonna change the subject. Last thing that is absolutely terribly sad, depressing, angry, just should never have happened, but it has happened. Deb becoming famous. No, we'll come on to that after I wanted to just send my sincere condolences out to Wayne Broadhurst family and that should never, ever have happened.

[00:58:48] That poor man just doing his job. And being viciously stabbed to death in, in broad daylight in the streets this week, and other people being stabbed as well.

[00:59:03] Tasha: I haven't, I haven't read the story in detail yet. I've seen, I've seen the headlines. I've, I've scrolled past some things. I, you know, you're just like, I'll read that another time.

[00:59:14] Jo Day: It's not just, I, I couldn't children anymore. Nobody's safe. Nobody's safe, basically. And I just wanted to say, I don't wanna go into the, into it too much. I'm, I'm don't wanna keep giving them their time. Um, but just rest in peace 

[00:59:31] Tasha: weighing and, yeah, sending love to his standing, love to his family. But yeah, I wanna try and lift the mood a little bit 

[00:59:43] Jo Day: now.

[00:59:45] From that. 

[00:59:46] Tasha: Oh, don't do it by 

[00:59:47] talking about Deb. I'm sick of talking about it this week. Do you know I've, I've 

[00:59:50] Jo Day: right, so you were gonna tell us all about Halloween. We'll get onto Deb afterwards. But you were, 

[00:59:57] Tasha: I can't believe, I can't believe you immediately fought a Halloween because I said Deb Tulin.

[01:00:01] That was a bit No, it was the from Can't help. She can't, can't help that. She looks like that. You're out of order. Actually, I was, I was gonna call her because I wanted to borrow her face for Halloween. So, 

[01:00:17] Jo Day: come on, you've got a little story about Halloween. Come on, share it with, yes. 

[01:00:23] Tasha: So a couple of weeks ago, I think it was now you know, me being a little MJ fan and all.

[01:00:28] There was something, I think Billboard or something usual bollocks had shared something on Twitter about something like the top 100 songs of Halloween or something. I don't, I sort of see it and I think, oh, here we fucking go. We know MJ is gonna be at like number 48 or something because they always, they always mug him off.

[01:00:48] Um, well I saw a few videos. People have done it, a couple of creators have done some videos going, hang on a minute, what the fuck is this list? Top 100 or something, Halloween songs. And guess what number thriller was that? 

[01:01:05] Jo Day: Surely number one, 

[01:01:07] Tasha: you 

[01:01:07] Jo Day: think, you think. 

[01:01:10] Tasha: Because I dunno if people know this, there is a story behind, uh, I dunno if people know how Halloween even became a thing, but many years ago you know, this Michael Jackson was born.

[01:01:20] That's what happened. Thriller was made and Halloween suddenly happened. That's the story I'm going with. You can argue with me. All you like Michael Jackson is fucking Halloween. Thriller is 

[01:01:34] Halloween. Even people that don't like MJ can't argue with that. Thriller is the Halloween song. Yeah.

[01:01:43] Jo Day: Now, just to remind, huh. Video as well, like the 

[01:01:48] Tasha: video is one of the most iconic it changed music video come right? Okay. So take away the iconic outfit that I might have. We did dress my grandson up in for his first birthday. Take away the, everyone knows that red. 

[01:02:06] Yep. 

[01:02:07] Take away the fact that the video is iconic and record breaking in itself, take away the fact it's from the best selling album ever made, because it is never been beaten to this day.

[01:02:20] Yep. The fact that that song comes back out of nowhere in all the charts, apple Music, Spotify, billboard, all the charts, it's there. It starts, it jumps like 110 places in a day or something. Every fucking Halloween. Michael Jackson trends, every Halloween,

[01:02:42] Jo Day: Hey, maybe Jackson change under every Halloween on its release stage.

[01:02:46] That's fine. Halloween. She be, she'd 

[01:02:50] Tasha: be written if she'd gone into the market 

[01:02:53] Jo Day: letters. Get your copy of letters. Do 

[01:02:56] Tasha: you know what, where it says that Michael Jackson's thriller is the Halloween anthem? Number one, it says it even dead new back in the fucking eighties. And there's a part in 19 83, 19 84, where Friller happens, right?

[01:03:15] Honestly. So Billboard, knowing all of this, watching it 

[01:03:21] happen every year, puts him at number 22

[01:03:25] for Moffitt. 

[01:03:28] I 

[01:03:28] needed counseling when I read that. So luckily I've got therapy on Monday morning. That's the first thing I'm gonna be crying about. So I just want everyone. Well, I just want everyone to do me a favor just to piss billboard off as you're going about the rest of your evening. Just play thriller on YouTube or Spotify.

[01:03:48] Turn your phone down and go and sit and watch your program. Just play it again and again and again and again. Also, Michael Jackson has overtaken Beyonce and Chris Brown and the Spotify monthly listeners, 60 million he now has. So, um, to my son-in-law who keeps arguing with me that Chris Brown's better and to my son who keeps telling me Beyonce's better.

[01:04:12] Just saying, I want that on here. 

[01:04:16] Okay. 

[01:04:17] Jo Day: Tash, I'm, as we've gone past the hour mark, an hour and 10 minutes. Yes. Um, I'd just like to say the name Avil to you. I'm not gonna let you forget. So tell us a little bit about Avil and your business. 

[01:04:31] Tasha: So my two best friends are wankers because they did not think to coordinate this week.

[01:04:40] So Deb obviously is, someone that I've, I've known for the last 20 plus years. And, um, Avil is someone that I met at secondary school year seven. First year I moved from Essex to Lincoln Shear, and I've known her my since then. So we've, we've been, we've known each other for 36 years now, something like that.

[01:05:05] We've had similar sort of, we've had similar backgrounds, similar lives, but we lived it together. Back in the nineties when things weren't like they are now for anyone that wasn't alive in the nineties. If you think people don't care about your feelings now, oh boy, they really didn't care about 'em in the fucking nineties.

[01:05:23] But look we've been through, I won't go into, I won't go into uh, things 'cause obviously I haven't spoken to travel about what she wants me to share, what she doesn't. But I just wanna say this, I've watched her build a beautiful life, a beautiful family. She's got a great job. She's got a beautiful home.

[01:05:44] She's got great kids. I love them all. And she's done it from nothing. From nothing. And no one. And she met and. Our husband now, who I have to say I couldn't stand when I first met him. We've had this conversation. He knows exactly what I think. I couldn't stand him. Couldn't stand him. It turns out. 'cause we are quite fucking similar.

[01:06:04] What an asshole. I thought what an asshole. Don't like this geezer. Turns out we're quite alike. So anyway, funny that but what he's done, he basically just took her by the end, promised her stuff and delivered. And she got to build, you know, she puts work, she puts the work into, but they've built this beautiful life together.

[01:06:25] And, um, she has, right now she's probably having a champagne or two. I should have been there tonight, but unfortunately I couldn't be there because it's my grandson's birthday and there was just, the logistics wasn't allowing it. We, I'm devastated about it, but. Tomorrow she opens her first salon with a good friend of hers, Amy Harris, who I met.

[01:06:52] And within 30 seconds I thought, this girl's nuts. She's clearly fucking a DHD as fuck. I love her. I'm just really proud of Avril and I would've, I would've posted more this week. My plan was to post more this week. But look, you, Avril and Deb just did not communicate that, I can't have two of my closest people fucking launching stuff at the same time within the space for a couple of days and not giving me the heads up.

[01:07:17] You know, I did message out this morning. I wished her all the luck in the world. Guys, if you live anywhere near Spalding in Lincoln Shear Salon A, it's on Facebook. Have a look, go check 'em out. They literally had an idea, they had a chat in July. They got keys to a very rundown needed ripping out, gutting and redoing building in August.

[01:07:42] Yeah. And it was about August 28th and I said they, they had to gut the place and I was thinking they'll probably open after Christmas. Oh no. I was like, no, we wanna be open by, eh, first November, end of October. And I looked so thought, no fucking why you gonna get that done by then? They have, they've still got a lot to do, but they have.

[01:08:04] But guys, this salon's gonna be different. It's not gonna, it's not your regular run of the mill salon. The thought that has gone into this is unreal. And, the elderly, the disabled kids long term Avil wants to provide a hair consultation with consultation because Avil herself went through Al She has alopecia.

[01:08:27] She won't mind me telling you that. She's quite public about it, but she suffered with that when we were still at school. Teenage girl in the nineties with no hair. She went completely bald. And, uh, she has always just dealt with life. You know, she's, she's not had it easy and everything she's done she's.

[01:08:44] She's done it. You know, she's gone out and she's got it for herself and I'm so proud of her. I'm so proud of her beautiful family. Bless Ann. Well, thank you for promising my friend and delivering on it and looking after her all this time. I think they've been together like 20 odd years. Insane. But yeah, I mean, just if you live near sporting and can share or you see the posts on Facebook, please just gimme a little share.

[01:09:09] You never know who might see it. We, I'll get down there tomorrow if you are local and, uh, it's called salon A as in letter a, salon a. Just go support 'em. You'll be made to feel welcome. I know everybody that walks through the door, we made to feel welcome. And, uh, yeah, just support her guys, just local businesses.

[01:09:29] We've gotta stop supporting Amazon some much and start supporting local businesses. Come on. So, uh, so yeah, I'm proud of you AV and I wish you all the best. I doubt she'll be on the live tonight, but she will catch up. Bless her and thank you. Even this week, she's been so busy and she's still found time to read Deb's book, order.

[01:09:48] Deb's book. She's been catching up when she's got home from the salon. He's been sharing posts. She's just a beautiful person and, you know, she deserves that back. So, come on guys, get sharing, get sharing, liking the page on Facebook. Help it reach people you know, and bless. Good, good luck, girls for tomorrow.

[01:10:07] I'm sorry I can't be there, 

[01:10:08] Jo Day: but, yeah. Amazing. Yeah I wanna finish on Deb's Spook again. I'm gonna keep plugging this spook, but letters. True crime memoir Deb Holland. Couldn't be prouder of you, Deb. But if you haven't already got your copy, you can get it on Hardback. There is a paperback version. You can get it on Kindle.

[01:10:34] And the good news is if you are a member of Kindle Unlimited, as many people will be Kindle Unlimited as part of your membership of Kindle Unlimited. You can actually read it for free. So I think there's also a three month trial of Kindle Unlimited at the moment, so you can sign up and read it for free.

[01:10:55] Deb still gets paid for every page that you read as part of that subscription, that membership. Don't worry, Deb, I haven't done you dirty signing you up to that. You still get paid for every page that's read. But yeah. There are lots of ways to get hold of a copy of Debs book and give it a read. You will not be disappointed.

[01:11:16] So we're gonna keep plugging Debs book. 

[01:11:18] Tasha: Yeah. Thank you again to everyone that's been supporting this week. It's been insane. I actually, I said to, I spoke to Deb earlier and I said to her, and I said the same to you, Joe. I wanna sit down over the weekend. I wanna count all the likes, the comments, the screenshots of the book, the just the shares on posts, just the, just like, just to see what the numbers actually are.

[01:11:39] Because didn't I think, was it this morning you said to me her book got to number 45 or something in one of the genres. 

[01:11:47] Jo Day: 42 in the true crime genre, number four. 

[01:11:51] Tasha: That's nuts. Overnight, I mean this. 

[01:11:56] Jo Day: Yeah. So what people to understand is dabs book's not been discounted. This is a full price book. Because it deserves to be paid for.

[01:12:06] She's put a lot of work into producing this book, sitting down and writing it. And when you see these books going straight in at number one in the charts 

[01:12:16] Tasha: mm-hmm. Go have a look 

[01:12:16] Jo Day: at the price of them 99. We know, we know how they do it. They've practically given away for free. We know how they do it. Deb's book is climbing the charts organically.

[01:12:28] It's not about a van tree vanity metric. Right. We're gonna get there, we're gonna get to the top of the charts, but we're doing it properly and we're doing, and do you know what else? Organic, do you know what else? And people actually interested in reading the book. Yeah. People will read. I've got, must have 200 books in my Kendall Library that I've just bought to help somebody to get to a number one spot.

[01:12:50] Never again. 

[01:12:51] Tasha: Do you know what, it's funny because when me and Deb were first talking almost a year ago or just under a year ago when she'd sort of got to the end and she was talking about the publishing part of the book, she actually actively wanted to avoid self-publishing for that reason.

[01:13:06] She didn't want to be Amazon number one bestseller. She didn't want to give her book away for 99 p. She didn't want, because she said like, that's all vanity. That's all vanity. Yeah. And this is my fucking story and I want it. And she, she's a reader. She's an avid reader. She respects written work. So she wanted her work.

[01:13:32] She wanted people to enjoy what she'd written. It wasn't about sales or money because listen, guys, the book, people have sort of said, oh, the book's quite pricey. I'm like, is it. Is it really? It's a, it's been a year of work and it's someone's life story and it's printed and it's solid 

[01:13:54] and it's, it's double the summaries.

[01:13:59] But listen, 

[01:13:59] what I want people to to know is that Deb doesn't get the quid. Deb gets a very small part of that, you know, like it's not, they don't just go, oh, Deb, another 21 qui. Yeah. It don't work like that. But listen I would do this for anyone. Like you put the work in, you deserve the reward. And this, I've spent more than that.

[01:14:24] On, on, I think I spent all that on Katie Price's book fucking years ago. I didn't even know the girl. Yeah. I could've just bought a celebrity gossip magazine. But you know, like, yeah. Like you say, you know, this wasn't, it wasn't about money made from friends. That's not where Deb's head is. I, I promise you that's not where Deb's head is.

[01:14:43] Deb's head is about people enjoying what she's written and finding it. She's done. They come out and go, I enjoyed reading that dead. That was great. That's what she's done it for. Yeah. And for her story to be out there, which is just the most, I say That's, that's funny. We wanted, it was us that wanted to get her to number one.

[01:15:03] We were like, oh, it'd be great. We could get us to number one. But like you say, not at the expense of her credibility, 

[01:15:12] Exactly. And if we have to wait six months, not devaluing, we're not devaluing it. No, absolutely not. This is, this isn't to help boost anything else. It's her story. 

[01:15:22] Jo Day: Yeah. I have this.

[01:15:26] Deep rooted feeling that we are gonna be seeing this on our screens. Anyway, 

[01:15:34] Tasha: I've always thought that, I 

[01:15:35] Jo Day: think it's so much, I ju I've just, you mark my words. This will be on your TV soon. I'm telling you. It will, I'm sure it, 

[01:15:45] Tasha: we are gonna have to clip that part of this podcast because at some point we're gonna be playing this back.

[01:15:52] I listen I, people think I'm a bit nuts when I say this, but genuinely my gut feeling this last six months, 12 months, has been on point with everything in my life. I trust it. I listen to it. I listen to it, and I've known, I just get this feeling and I've said it for, I've said it to her before. It's gonna be this.

[01:16:10] I get a fear, mate, this is gonna be massive. I, it might not be right now, but I know at some point that's gonna be coming. That's gonna be on your screen. I know it is. 

[01:16:22] Jo Day: Yep. 

[01:16:23] Tasha: I absolutely is 

[01:16:25] Jo Day: too. Like literally it already happened. I can see. Yeah, 

[01:16:29] Tasha: I have no doubt. I'm gonna write Bri I'm gonna write the script and I'm gonna put me in it a fucker.

[01:16:35] Me and Flax are going in it. See which write. I'm sick that we haven't had a mention yet. 

[01:16:42] Jo Day: Deb, if if she's gonna write a cell phone for watching Deb, she can be Jade West. 

[01:16:48] Tasha: No, I've got there mate. I've got there. Don't like her at all. I don't like her at all. 

[01:16:53] No. Neither do 

[01:16:54] I, Mrs. West, I'm gonna be reading another couple of chapters tonight.

[01:16:59] I'm gonna try not to read too quick. 'cause I'm I wanna slow it. I don't wanna read quickly just to get through it. I want to like, really enjoy each chapter. I'm loving it though. Yeah, and, and honestly, I keep picking this book up every day and I've never been able to do that. I either don't read at all or I binge it.

[01:17:15] Quickly. And I'm actually, it's her first time I've ever sort of picked a book up, put it down, picked a book up, put it down. And actually I'm really enjoying it, like doing that. It's the first for me 'cause I don't So good. I've never done that. Yeah. So well done. Deb got me reading. Deb's 

[01:17:33] Jo Day: gonna, she's gonna absolutely have to come back and we need book two soon because I need to know what happens next.

[01:17:42] Tasha: Yeah, we do, we do need book two. I did. Can I just say as well, um, if anyone has any questions for them, if you, once you, 'cause I know so many people have got the book now. 'cause I'm, I'm getting the messages every day going screenshot, screenshots. Guys are still proving to me that they're buying it. Right.

[01:17:57] Bless them. But so people are now obviously starting to read and a couple of people have messaged me about a couple of questions. Um. I can't remember all of them now. I will, we'll do, we'll do an episode set on all the questions, but, so if any of you have any, if you start reading the book and you have any questions, either send them to me and I'll send 'em to Deb or we'll compile a load of questions and we'll do an episode on it and get Deb to answer them.

[01:18:23] But, um, if someone did say to me stuff, all these characters really real, like all of them. So what I will say, and I, I'm pretty sure I know the answer to this, although if, I'm sure Deb will put in the comments if I, if I'm wrong in any way, the main characters are real in terms of their name, their story, blah, blah, blah.

[01:18:44] So obviously Deb, Glen, Bob, and Jess Barbara, these people are all real. What Deb had to do for anyone that missed the episode the other day was she did have to really think, she had to change some names. Events are real. The stories are real, but she may have slightly changed names or changed location to protect people's identity because Yeah, because you know, there might be things there might, she's telling fucking incredible like, wow stories here.

[01:19:19] And without knowing where these people are or how to contact them, there's just no way of checking that it's okay for her to talk. So she's had to do that with certain people, but everything in it is real. It's real. It happened like this was said, this did happen. Everything in that is Deb's life basically is Deb's life up, up to sort of a certain point.

[01:19:42] And then we get book two. So yes, these people are real, although some of the names may have been changed,

[01:19:50] you know, but yeah. 

[01:19:52] Jo Day: I think we'll leave it there Tash. 'cause we're nearly on an hour and off. It's like the longest episode ever. Oh shit. 

[01:19:59] Tasha: Can't even cut it down now. Maybe we've gone. 

[01:20:02] Jo Day: I know. Yeah. Sorry about that guys. But, uh, yeah, we, we'll also clip it throughout the week and, um, yeah. 

[01:20:11] Tasha: Can you be, yeah, can you be considerate when you do that, please?

[01:20:14] Jo Day: No. 'cause it's more fun when they just, uh, I enjoy the comments. More fun for 

[01:20:20] Tasha: you. Gonna end up in fucking on a one month sentence prick.

[01:20:25] Jo Day: I'm off. I'm gonna, I'm gonna go and play hospitals again. See you. Bye. 

[01:20:32] Tasha: Bye guys. 

[01:20:33] Jo Day: Bye.